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		<title>Comment on Schwabl&#8217;s Beef on a Weck by Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and now I&#039;m starving! 

I&#039;d love to find a decent Beef on Weck place in Rochester. I was hoping the new Anchor bar would have good ones, but it was just OK. 

My favorite Wecks are from the Beef &#039;n&#039; Barrel restaurant in Olean NY: http://www.beefnbarrel.com/home/ I have a hard time ordering anything else from their menu. I highly recommend getting it with a side of fries &amp; gravy. I&#039;ll have to give Schwabl&#039;s a try the next time I&#039;m out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and now I&#8217;m starving! </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to find a decent Beef on Weck place in Rochester. I was hoping the new Anchor bar would have good ones, but it was just OK. </p>
<p>My favorite Wecks are from the Beef &#8216;n&#8217; Barrel restaurant in Olean NY: <a href="http://www.beefnbarrel.com/home/" rel="nofollow">http://www.beefnbarrel.com/home/</a> I have a hard time ordering anything else from their menu. I highly recommend getting it with a side of fries &amp; gravy. I&#8217;ll have to give Schwabl&#8217;s a try the next time I&#8217;m out there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nathaniel Square Corner Store by Bobby T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found Jay most helpful in picking out a beer selection for a themed poker nite I was having...store has great atmosphere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found Jay most helpful in picking out a beer selection for a themed poker nite I was having&#8230;store has great atmosphere!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nathaniel Square Corner Store by Ginny Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Jay&#039;s great-aunt in California.  I would like him to know I&#039;m very proud of him and wish him well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Jay&#8217;s great-aunt in California.  I would like him to know I&#8217;m very proud of him and wish him well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Send Me Samples by creamaledrinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>creamaledrinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom, That sounds like a great idea.  This is a tough one... Cream Ale was the first beer to be canned on January 24, 1935, &quot;Krueger Cream Ale,&quot; was sold by the Kruger Brewing Company of Richmond, VA..  They didn&#039;t originate the style but most people seem to agree that Cream Ale and Anchor Steam are were the first original American beer styles. 

If I think back in Rochester Brewing history for some reason &quot;stock ales&quot;, &quot;sturdy ale&quot;  and &quot;porters&quot; come to mind. Not sure exactly what a sturdy ale is but my guess is it&#039;s an English style winter beer.  I&#039;ll keep thinking about this. 

I&#039;ll ask my dad if he has any historical recipes he&#039;s be willing to share. 

I myself have never (unfortunately) tasted a 12 horse beer but would love to try someones interpretation of it. 

12 Horse Ale A rich, full-bodied, yet remarkably smooth American-style ale, 12 Horse is brewed with six-row barley malt, corn grits, hops from the Yakima Valley and a special top-fermenting yeast, resulting in an exceptional balance and solid head. 12 Horse Ale was introduced in 1934.  thanks for checking out the blog! 

cheers, Daron </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom, That sounds like a great idea.  This is a tough one&#8230; Cream Ale was the first beer to be canned on January 24, 1935, &#8220;Krueger Cream Ale,&#8221; was sold by the Kruger Brewing Company of Richmond, VA..  They didn&#8217;t originate the style but most people seem to agree that Cream Ale and Anchor Steam are were the first original American beer styles. </p>
<p>If I think back in Rochester Brewing history for some reason &#8220;stock ales&#8221;, &#8220;sturdy ale&#8221;  and &#8220;porters&#8221; come to mind. Not sure exactly what a sturdy ale is but my guess is it&#8217;s an English style winter beer.  I&#8217;ll keep thinking about this. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll ask my dad if he has any historical recipes he&#8217;s be willing to share. </p>
<p>I myself have never (unfortunately) tasted a 12 horse beer but would love to try someones interpretation of it. </p>
<p>12 Horse Ale A rich, full-bodied, yet remarkably smooth American-style ale, 12 Horse is brewed with six-row barley malt, corn grits, hops from the Yakima Valley and a special top-fermenting yeast, resulting in an exceptional balance and solid head. 12 Horse Ale was introduced in 1934.  thanks for checking out the blog! </p>
<p>cheers, Daron</p>
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		<title>Comment on Send Me Samples by thomas ocque</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas ocque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

My name is Tom Ocque. I am a homebrewer with the UNYHA homebrew club in Rochester.  As a club we are planning a fall brew off this year and the beer style is &quot;historical beers&quot;.  I was wondering if you have any ideas of any beer that maybe is local to Rochester or NY that would fit this description.  I am not sure if Cream Ale was first produced here in Rochester or not.  It is obviously well regarding nationally as a beer from Rochester.  

What do you think of 12 Horse Ale?  What separates it from any other beer?  

Do you have any homebrew recipes, maybe from your dad&#039;s stash that would fit this description?

Any comments would be appreciated.  Thank you.
TOM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>My name is Tom Ocque. I am a homebrewer with the UNYHA homebrew club in Rochester.  As a club we are planning a fall brew off this year and the beer style is &#8220;historical beers&#8221;.  I was wondering if you have any ideas of any beer that maybe is local to Rochester or NY that would fit this description.  I am not sure if Cream Ale was first produced here in Rochester or not.  It is obviously well regarding nationally as a beer from Rochester.  </p>
<p>What do you think of 12 Horse Ale?  What separates it from any other beer?  </p>
<p>Do you have any homebrew recipes, maybe from your dad&#8217;s stash that would fit this description?</p>
<p>Any comments would be appreciated.  Thank you.<br />
TOM</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hit the NY Beer Trail! by Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The FC Brewfest this past weekend had a Goose Island booth. The Honkers Ale was just OK, and the IPA was very good. But they had this Bourbon County Stout that was one of the most interesting beers I&#039;ve ever tried. Very bourbony! Stupendous stuff. They absolutely have to do a beer social at the Tap soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FC Brewfest this past weekend had a Goose Island booth. The Honkers Ale was just OK, and the IPA was very good. But they had this Bourbon County Stout that was one of the most interesting beers I&#8217;ve ever tried. Very bourbony! Stupendous stuff. They absolutely have to do a beer social at the Tap soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hit the NY Beer Trail! by creamaledrinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>creamaledrinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They limit the trail to brewpubs and craft brewers per
The Brewers Association definition - an American craft brewer as one that is “small, independent and traditional.” Such breweries must produce fewer than 2 million barrels of beer per year, be less than 25 percent corporate-owned and utilize traditional brewing methods. So that&#039;s why Genesee isn&#039;t included along with them being corporate owned and the brewery unfortunately isn&#039;t open to the public yet for tastings and tours although I have heard the rumor that they might have public tours and tastings in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They limit the trail to brewpubs and craft brewers per<br />
The Brewers Association definition &#8211; an American craft brewer as one that is “small, independent and traditional.” Such breweries must produce fewer than 2 million barrels of beer per year, be less than 25 percent corporate-owned and utilize traditional brewing methods. So that&#8217;s why Genesee isn&#8217;t included along with them being corporate owned and the brewery unfortunately isn&#8217;t open to the public yet for tastings and tours although I have heard the rumor that they might have public tours and tastings in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hit the NY Beer Trail! by Mr. Cream Ale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Cream Ale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Genesee Brewing company, the 2nd largest AMERICAN Owned &amp; Operated beer company (by volume) is not even on the map.....Why not?

If this is a trail for just &quot;craft&quot; breweries, they still produce Dundee Craft beers, and I consider Cream Ale a craft beer, since it is indigenous to the U.S., a true American beer style.

Do you have any ideas? Suggestions?

Drink Cream Ale....but it looks like you already do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Genesee Brewing company, the 2nd largest AMERICAN Owned &amp; Operated beer company (by volume) is not even on the map&#8230;..Why not?</p>
<p>If this is a trail for just &#8220;craft&#8221; breweries, they still produce Dundee Craft beers, and I consider Cream Ale a craft beer, since it is indigenous to the U.S., a true American beer style.</p>
<p>Do you have any ideas? Suggestions?</p>
<p>Drink Cream Ale&#8230;.but it looks like you already do</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Mr. Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the brew today at a meijer&#039;s grocery store in illinois and was surprised when I didn&#039;t find info on it either.  Come to find out, it is brewed by High Falls Brewing, according to the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau.  
Refs:  http://beeradvocate.com/forum/read/2201641
https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicDisplaySearchBasic&amp;ttbid=09156000000045</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the brew today at a meijer&#8217;s grocery store in illinois and was surprised when I didn&#8217;t find info on it either.  Come to find out, it is brewed by High Falls Brewing, according to the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau.<br />
Refs:  <a href="http://beeradvocate.com/forum/read/2201641" rel="nofollow">http://beeradvocate.com/forum/read/2201641</a><br />
<a href="https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicDisplaySearchBasic&amp;ttbid=09156000000045" rel="nofollow">https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicDisplaySearchBasic&amp;ttbid=09156000000045</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Nathaniel Square Corner Store by LTS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Jaime.  You may not work for Nathaniel Square but you gotta be on the indirect marketing payroll. :)

I&#039;ve not been in there but I have been past there.  I will try to stop in but not being from that neighborhood it&#039;s usually quite a bit later when I am around and I don&#039;t happen to be walking by.

Jay is a great guy, I&#039;ll always have a memory of him belting out a Pink Floyd cover tune during a Niche show.  Floored me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Jaime.  You may not work for Nathaniel Square but you gotta be on the indirect marketing payroll. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not been in there but I have been past there.  I will try to stop in but not being from that neighborhood it&#8217;s usually quite a bit later when I am around and I don&#8217;t happen to be walking by.</p>
<p>Jay is a great guy, I&#8217;ll always have a memory of him belting out a Pink Floyd cover tune during a Niche show.  Floored me.</p>
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